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The final Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Election 2008 shows Barack Obama with 52% of the vote while John McCain is six points back at 46%. One percent (1%) of voters say they’ll select a third-party option while 1% remain undecided. Tomorrow, at 9:30 a.m. Eastern, we will release our final Election Night poll results offering a look at what voters were thinking as they cast their ballots.
Thirty-six percent (36%) of voters cast their ballots early this year and those voters favored Obama by a double-digit margin. Among those who will actually cast their ballots on Tuesday, the candidates are essentially even.
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Hillary: Still Furious, Will Allow Her Name in Nomination!
Hillary wants to allow her supporters to "vent" their anger, so she will allow her name to be placed in nomination at the convention, which will really tick off Howard Dean, Obama's camp and Pelosi. Payback is tough when you run a nasty campaign like Obama's people did.
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Old 08-07-2008, 09:14 AM #2
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Don't count Hillary out. Remember what she said about RFK. Remember Vince Foster. Remember Ron Brown. The Clintons have some serious people behind them.
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Either way this helps McCain, so more power to her. She can rally her base and turn them against Obama. If she somehow steals the nomination (I don't put anything past her, heck she may hire the marksman herself), then the Obama base doesn't show up the polls in November. If she rallies her supporters and causes a split of the party, but Obama remains the nominee, then the Clinton supporters don't show to the polls or vote for Barr, McKinney or McCain. Either way, that helps McCain tremendously. Got get 'em Hildabeast! Wait, is that name calling, am I going to get banned?
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:26 AM #4
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She's been playing nice hoping for the VP bid....now she's playing hardball to get it.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:51 AM #5
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Coco that is exactly what I have been saying for the last 6 months. Clinton's don't give up.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:56 AM #6
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Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos" has turned out to be effective!
I'm not a Limbaugh fan, but you have to admit that his plan was really quite brilliant.
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:38 PM #7
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Coco that is exactly what I have been saying for the last 6 months. Clinton's don't give up.
Mark my words.this will NOT happen, and when it does not ...please remember I told you it would not ....
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:40 PM #8
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You got it dude
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Wasn't there a story a few weeks ago that Hillary would not seek the nomination at the convention?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/...ref=newssearch
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"That is not going to happen, not going to happen. Look, what we want to have happen is for Sen. Obama to be nominated by a unified convention of Democrats," she said.
What's funny, is that its essentially the same article as posted by the OP.
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If anything does happen to Obama (and the Clintons or their friends would of course have nothing to do with it), I can tell you the type of person who will be/has been selected as the patsy. But I'll make you guess. (Hint: He'll probably be from Mississippi.)
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AtlzamGator... you have to remember they are about as naive as McCain. They all translate anything they hear different from us and they believe ANYTHING another republican tells them. If it's correct or incorrect.
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AtlzamGator... you have to remember they are about as naive as McCain. They all translate anything they hear different from us and they believe ANYTHING another republican tells them. If it's correct or incorrect.
What are you talking about?
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You don't understand PLAIN ENGLISH G8R?? I refuse to call you "master" or "masta" anything. Got to be Republican!
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If Obama had a lead, I'd say no way he picks HRC for Veep. But this race is so close, he may have little other choice if he wants to win. And I think he would win with her as Veep - he'd solidify some of the female vote, and pick up some seniors that wouldn't otherwise vote for him. She would probably tend to moderate his message, too.
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If anything does happen to Obama (and the Clintons or their friends would of course have nothing to do with it), I can tell you the type of person who will be/has been selected as the patsy. But I'll make you guess. (Hint: He'll probably be from Mississippi.)
And he'll be a Caucasian Republican with a Rebel Flag tattoo.
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She's been playing nice hoping for the VP bid....now she's playing hardball to get it.
She doesn't wan't to be Veep. She wants Obama to lose so she can run in 2012!!!
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Seriously, she almost has to do this to keep her supporters happy. If they don't get to feel "counted", they'll be more likely to turn on the party like they have threatened to do. Trust me - the donkeys need this.
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She doesn't wan't to be Veep. She wants Obama to lose so she can run in 2012!!!
Bingo! Hillary has nothing to gain from Obama winning and much to lose. In 2012, if Obama loses in 08, Hillary would be a strong candidate against McCain.
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84 88 what is about you that if a person disagree's with you that you label them a white racist republican? Is there no such thing as a black racist democrat? If all you do is call other people names and labels it weakens your stance. Before you label me, I am white, non-racist, Christian and a Libertarian.
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She doesn't wan't to be Veep. She wants Obama to lose so she can run in 2012!!!
If you believe this you are delusional. In politics, hc knows.
She knows that even b .o. loss does not equal a win for her in 2012 ...too many variables ...
Clearly for her its better that 1. Obama win 2.that obama enjoy sucess for 2 terms 3.she receive a high profile appointment ...or more than 1. ....(A.G. Or cabinet)
That will allow if you will an annointment in 2016.
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If you believe this you are delusional. In politics, hc knows.
She knows that even b .o. loss does not equal a win for her in 2012 ...too many variables ...
Clearly for her its better that 1. Obama win 2.that obama enjoy sucess for 2 terms 3.she receive a high profile appointment ...or more than 1. ....(A.G. Or cabinet)
That will allow if you will an annointment in 2016.
Don't believe so. Hillary does not want to take a backseat for the next 8 years. Who knows who will come out of the woodwork to challenge her nomination in 16. Obama loses and she can mount a strong campaign in 2012 while her name is still fresh with the voters. Over the next 4 years her, Pelosi and Reid can do everything possible to derail McCain's Presidency. If you believe she is not capable of doing just that then you need to reexamine your thoughts on her.
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I agree. An Obama loss is a gain for HC in 2012. Since she wants to be President then this is the best case scenario for her.
Hillary: Still Furious, Will Allow Her Name in Nomination!
Hillary wants to allow her supporters to "vent" their anger, so she will allow her name to be placed in nomination at the convention, which will really tick off Howard Dean, Obama's camp and Pelosi. Payback is tough when you run a nasty campaign like Obama's people did.
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Don't count Hillary out. Remember what she said about RFK. Remember Vince Foster. Remember Ron Brown. The Clintons have some serious people behind them.
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Either way this helps McCain, so more power to her. She can rally her base and turn them against Obama. If she somehow steals the nomination (I don't put anything past her, heck she may hire the marksman herself), then the Obama base doesn't show up the polls in November. If she rallies her supporters and causes a split of the party, but Obama remains the nominee, then the Clinton supporters don't show to the polls or vote for Barr, McKinney or McCain. Either way, that helps McCain tremendously. Got get 'em Hildabeast! Wait, is that name calling, am I going to get banned?
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:26 AM #4
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She's been playing nice hoping for the VP bid....now she's playing hardball to get it.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:51 AM #5
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Coco that is exactly what I have been saying for the last 6 months. Clinton's don't give up.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:56 AM #6
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Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos" has turned out to be effective!
I'm not a Limbaugh fan, but you have to admit that his plan was really quite brilliant.
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Coco that is exactly what I have been saying for the last 6 months. Clinton's don't give up.
Mark my words.this will NOT happen, and when it does not ...please remember I told you it would not ....
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You got it dude
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Wasn't there a story a few weeks ago that Hillary would not seek the nomination at the convention?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/...ref=newssearch
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"That is not going to happen, not going to happen. Look, what we want to have happen is for Sen. Obama to be nominated by a unified convention of Democrats," she said.
What's funny, is that its essentially the same article as posted by the OP.
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If anything does happen to Obama (and the Clintons or their friends would of course have nothing to do with it), I can tell you the type of person who will be/has been selected as the patsy. But I'll make you guess. (Hint: He'll probably be from Mississippi.)
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AtlzamGator... you have to remember they are about as naive as McCain. They all translate anything they hear different from us and they believe ANYTHING another republican tells them. If it's correct or incorrect.
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AtlzamGator... you have to remember they are about as naive as McCain. They all translate anything they hear different from us and they believe ANYTHING another republican tells them. If it's correct or incorrect.
What are you talking about?
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You don't understand PLAIN ENGLISH G8R?? I refuse to call you "master" or "masta" anything. Got to be Republican!
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If Obama had a lead, I'd say no way he picks HRC for Veep. But this race is so close, he may have little other choice if he wants to win. And I think he would win with her as Veep - he'd solidify some of the female vote, and pick up some seniors that wouldn't otherwise vote for him. She would probably tend to moderate his message, too.
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If anything does happen to Obama (and the Clintons or their friends would of course have nothing to do with it), I can tell you the type of person who will be/has been selected as the patsy. But I'll make you guess. (Hint: He'll probably be from Mississippi.)
And he'll be a Caucasian Republican with a Rebel Flag tattoo.
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She's been playing nice hoping for the VP bid....now she's playing hardball to get it.
She doesn't wan't to be Veep. She wants Obama to lose so she can run in 2012!!!
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Seriously, she almost has to do this to keep her supporters happy. If they don't get to feel "counted", they'll be more likely to turn on the party like they have threatened to do. Trust me - the donkeys need this.
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She doesn't wan't to be Veep. She wants Obama to lose so she can run in 2012!!!
Bingo! Hillary has nothing to gain from Obama winning and much to lose. In 2012, if Obama loses in 08, Hillary would be a strong candidate against McCain.
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84 88 what is about you that if a person disagree's with you that you label them a white racist republican? Is there no such thing as a black racist democrat? If all you do is call other people names and labels it weakens your stance. Before you label me, I am white, non-racist, Christian and a Libertarian.
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She doesn't wan't to be Veep. She wants Obama to lose so she can run in 2012!!!
If you believe this you are delusional. In politics, hc knows.
She knows that even b .o. loss does not equal a win for her in 2012 ...too many variables ...
Clearly for her its better that 1. Obama win 2.that obama enjoy sucess for 2 terms 3.she receive a high profile appointment ...or more than 1. ....(A.G. Or cabinet)
That will allow if you will an annointment in 2016.
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If you believe this you are delusional. In politics, hc knows.
She knows that even b .o. loss does not equal a win for her in 2012 ...too many variables ...
Clearly for her its better that 1. Obama win 2.that obama enjoy sucess for 2 terms 3.she receive a high profile appointment ...or more than 1. ....(A.G. Or cabinet)
That will allow if you will an annointment in 2016.
Don't believe so. Hillary does not want to take a backseat for the next 8 years. Who knows who will come out of the woodwork to challenge her nomination in 16. Obama loses and she can mount a strong campaign in 2012 while her name is still fresh with the voters. Over the next 4 years her, Pelosi and Reid can do everything possible to derail McCain's Presidency. If you believe she is not capable of doing just that then you need to reexamine your thoughts on her.
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I agree. An Obama loss is a gain for HC in 2012. Since she wants to be President then this is the best case scenario for her.
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